I'd love to get a chronological history detailing all the highs, lows, controversies, etc. Being just a foal in the fandom, most of what I know is patched together from a dozen random tidbits of conversation. I honestly don't know if there are, but the brony fandom's history is definitely a strange and fascinating one, particularly in regards to its transition from widely publicized meme to well-weathered cartoon fandom. My recommendation would be to check Gyropedia the MLP imageboard wiki for the origins of the brony fandom you may be surprised as to how the first bronies arose and garner together other information the events from - onwards from other sources.
As I joined during the summer boom the point where Gyropedia ceases coverage of events , I recall that:. I think the root of the issue is that people don't like when something that they are used to and have invested in changes somehow. Maybe they are afraid of the change as they were comfortable with the old but when something new comes around it introduces new aspects into the mix that they need to get used to before they can feel comfortable again.
It can also relate of feeling like the new isn't the same as the old and because of that they feel that they have lost the old one where they had already invested themselves into. Fascinating write up! Although i've been in the fandom since late , I was only a kid then so I barely remember most of this, but reading this was oddly nostalgic. Not sure if it's as notable, but several early episodes of Season 4 were hated by a lot of people. Me and my friend both quit the show for a bit after "Power Ponies" aired, since we both thought it was a waste of potential I still do, but it's not as bad as I remember.
To me, a lot of the stuff was just I don't really know how to explain it, but even though I know Alicorn Twilight and Equestria Girls just started to sell toys, it doesn't really bother me. It's a toyetic series, so big changes to the universe exist for marketing purposes first and storytelling purposes second. Maybe I'm just jaded to this stuff by now but I never try to let behind-the-scenes politics get in the way of how I like stuff.
I like Alicorn Twilight, but I prefer Unicorn Twilight and I've noticed that my favorite episodes with Alicorn Twilight tend to be ones where it could work just fine if she was still a unicorn.
Beyond marketing however, it does help the show get involved with storylines that involve the political nature of Equestria easier, I guess, but few storylines ever really take advantage of it. What was the Canterlot Wedding controversy over, by the way?
When it first aired, most of the people I talked to really liked the episode in-spite of a few fumbles, like Shining having no personality and coming out of nowhere. Shining Armor was the main point of the controversy back in the day.
At the time, I recall the brony fandom being extremely protective of Faust's philosophy that the show should allegedly not 'sell out' and turn into 'a typical girl's show', so having Twilight's brother whom she had never referenced in the prior 50 episodes and was light on personality for a show which carried its vast popularity on the backs of its main cast's personalities suddenly appear out of nowhere, introduce a pink alicorn princess as his bride and centre the finale around a royal wedding a somewhat 'girls' cartoon'-style premise on paper, particularly after the previous season finale had featured the mane six comically crashing a party.
It was "Alicorn Twilight syndrome" before alicorn Twilight was a thing - they believed that the show had 'sold out' and was deviated from Faust's vision. Some also criticized Chrysalis's plot as convoluted it kind of was, but we got a ton of surprisingly cinematic material from it on a more positive note , which, of course, lead to the comments of the reviewer I described in my recollections. One poster on another forum at the time noted that "we're experiencing a cultural milestone now; twenty years from now I'll take my kid into a s restaurant and he'll see pictures of ponies on the wall and ask "Dad, what are those ponies there?
It's amazing". And yes, the earliest run of episodes during S4 was definitely a rough period for the fandom. I recall "Flight to the Finish" as being the sole episode out of the first seven to be generally well-liked without any additional baggage even the premiere was a fairly divisive episode at the time in several fandom circles , and "Daring Don't" and "Power Ponies" in particular as sparking huge debate over their quality and the absurdity of their content. Alicorn Twilight's neglect during these episodes was also, if I recall correctly, a major sticking point for fans back in the day, who would constantly ask "why aren't [insert characters of the day here] referencing that Twilight's an alicorn?
There does not seem to have been any comparable contesting on any batch of episodes produced since that period, however I assume that most of the more Faust-devoted or heavily critical bronies had dropped out by the latter half of S4, which may have contributed to this.
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October 11, edited. ManaMinori 4, That's really all there is to it. Jordan D As I joined during the summer boom the point where Gyropedia ceases coverage of events , I recall that: Faust leaving was the first major rumbling in the fandom when announced around the time season 1 concluded.
The beginning of season 2 was viewed as a flop. This was largely due to Paleo Steino's reviews he was one of the first of the now-dying breed of brony analysts, and was the first major fandom reviewer to tear apart "The Mysterious Mare Do Well'. Wow, to think they all were equal. I mean Celestia has always been below even Derpy, but still the others were equal. Simple right? Well not anymore. Now the student went though a total change into not only an alicorn, but a princess. I mean now its like "Why care anymore about the lesser beings, we should all focus on the princess".
And yes, I know that she was still the princess's student, but after Lesson Zero, so were all the rest of them. It just totally ruins the equality. Strange, I totally thought that one of the themes of the show was that you can make your own future, and that no one can change that. Well I guess I was wrong. If Celestia says that you're suppose to be a princess, then you are, no questions asked. In Season 4, they better have a good reason why Twilight has no say of her destiny.
Behold Princess Twilight Royal Tea Set not included. Also, in A Dog and Pony Show , it's shown that Twilight can learn magic from other unicorns as she learned the gem-finding spell from Rarity, ultimately allowing them to find her in the caves.
It's also shown in The Crystal Empire - Part 2 when Twilight uses the dark magic that Celestia used in the previous episode. Even without viewing other unicorns, Twilight is very knowledgeable with magic, reading through books of them at the same time and being able to cast many spells on the spot. However, she has messed up spells from time to time, and sometimes it can turn into a drastic problem.
She knows her limitations, and constantly strives to overcome them. She even knows magic that's much greater than what she knows, such as in Magic Duel when she describes that age spells are "only for the highest-level unicorns. Next, let's discuss the Elements of Harmony. The Elements of Harmony are "six supernatural artifacts which are arguably the most powerful force in Equestria", and are made to reflect the pony they represent.
Each one has a specific trait and a specific quality, but Twilight was the one that didn't make much sense. Each element represented a quality that is necessary to have friendship; honesty, kindness, laughter, generosity, and loyalty. Twilight represents magic, which, as the title suggests, Friendship is Magic. But it wasn't really correlated as to what magic was until Magical Mystery Cure , when Princess Celestia lists off the qualities of each element. Seeing as friendship is magic, and the other ponies are the representations of friendship, it makes magic the combined elements and, in turn, the leader of them.
Seeing as how magic was represented by a crown and the other elements were necklaces, it shows the distinct difference between her and the others. This doesn't mean Twilight is higher in persona, since she is humble and loves all her friends, and she even states that "[she] wouldn't be standing here if it weren't for the friendships [she's] made with all of [them].
When she was just a filly, Twilight wanted to get into Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorns, but she couldn't necessarily pass the entrance exam. Rainbow's sonic rainboom passed at that point, and Twilight went into a massive magic state. The last point I'll make is this: I find Alicorn Twilight's flights of fancy to be a perversion of the truth. B - Toys Toys Toys. Hasbro got to make a bunch of Twilight toys with wings, and at the end of this season the ponies all went Super Sayion, so guess what?
BTW Don't you think that maaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe you're asking the wrong forum this question? Like seriously lol. Frankly, what happened this season is exactly what the International Criminalicorn Court was designed for. I sincerely hope Gen. It kind of bugs me too, to be honest. I just tried to avoid bringing it up, because I know how heated the discussions get around these parts when you bring up "Alicorn Power.
And on another note, has anyone been reading JoJoCorn? That Josuke Higashicornta is a card, ain't he? The only way we'll ever reach anything close to true equality amongst ponies is if we stop sweeping it under the rug and face it head on. I'm glad Alicorn Twilight's recent outbursts in the last season have brought greater notice to the pervasive prejudice which continues to plague Equestria. Yeah, uh Raspberry Sparkle Zeppeli really didn't need to remind us ten thousand times that "This is Sendocorn.
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