The man point blank, committed rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy, lewd and lascivious act upon a child under How would you feel if Samantha Geimer was your daughter or your sister? Then you would give more of a damn. Instead of attacking me and my posting style, why can't you face the hard truth, that there's no if ends or buts when it comes to "judging" Roman Polanski.
And if that makes me a so-called "Millennial" with poor reading and comprehension skills, then I rather be that, then a statuary rapist. And if you imply that he faced a very prejudiced judge, then that by design is a way of you defending him since you apparently feel that he didn't get a "fair trial".
So when Polanski talks about screwing young girls in "the late '60s", he's talking about doing it within a few months of his wife's brutal murder.
That's a sick way to be 'grieving'. I agree with that statement, but in this case we have a predatory year-old adult male who used his position as someone who could affect these girls' modeling careers to seduce them.
Truly disgusting. And despite your opinion, statutory rape is illegal. France is very Liberal with it's sex laws. They don't consider it rape unless the person was violently attacked. They also don't have a firm age for consent either. Imagine what it was like when RP's "rape" happened.
We shouldn't judge others for what happened in a different era in a different culture. Do I agree? But it is accepted as the normal in France. I thought the rape happened in France not the US. I'm surprised that so many famous names publicly defend him tbh. It kind of casts a shadow over their conduct too. Well not only did it happen in the US, but the fact is Polanski stood before a judge in court and entered a plea of guilty. So it becomes really ridiculous when you get celebrities acting shocked that a court could find him guilty He fucking admitted that he was guilty.
The only thing that he did that has kept this going for years was to flee the country before sentencing was handed down. The only thing the courts did wrong was to provide him time to get his affairs in order before he was sentenced, he should have been remanded to jail pending the sentencing as he was clearly a flight risk given. Thanks for educating me.
I never knew that. It is crazy that he was allowed to leave the court after admitting guilt. And that's the problem with most all these celebrities that defend him. They never bothered to get the actual facts of the case. They heard from someone they knew that he was railroaded, or heard from someone that the government had it in for him, but never bothered to look for the facts themselves they just accepted what they had heard or been told as facts.
Even if you read the wikipedia stuff about Polanski you have to read a down several paragraphs before you even get a hint that he entered a guilty plea and even then whoever wrote the stuff wasn't very clear about it as they continually referrer to a "plea bargain" You never do a psych evaluation prior to sentencing on someone unless they have either been found guilty or entered a guilty plea. So I can understand people not really knowing the full story because it is difficult to find the full story on the more common places people look.
But aren't most plea bargains done with a sentence in mind? Like the prosecutor and defense lawyer come to an agreement as they don't want to take the risk in court? And wasn't it the case that they had agreed upon a sentence and then found out that the judge wasn't going to abide by the agreement and make an example out of Polanski with a much harsher sentence? I think the reason why many celebrities would defend him is that quite honestly, it wasn't that uncommon back then.
Just look at the rock star groupies. Elvis met Pricilla when he was 24 and she was Jerry Lee Lewis anyone? Melanie Griffith was 15 when she moved in with Don Johnson who was in his 20s. Now I'm not condoning any of that, but these are the ones who we know about. So my point is that it wasn't uncommon.
So those who grew up or spent a lot of time in the industry might not think it a big deal, and have no issue supporting him. In any plea bargain the prosecutor will tell the defendant that they will tell the court that they will support probation instead of prison time, 1 year or whatever the two parties agree to, but they prosecutor will also explain quite clearly that the judge has the final say on the sentence and may or may not go along with what the prosecutor suggests.
That is how it has been done for decades and any defense lawyer Polanski would have had would have known that and told them up front those very facts. While it isn't common for judges to say fuck the agreement the SOB needs a harsher sentence, it does happen. They would have know who the judge was and what his track record was before making the deal Now once he fled the country you can guarantee that his action pretty much guaranteed that when or if he ever got hauled back to court that he would be smacked down harder than under the agreement based on his actions.
As for groupies and rock stars The normal motius operandi for rock stars was sex for backstage passes and shit like that, it wasn't going out finding a 13 year old girl, getting her drunk, giving her drugs and then fucking her while she protested.
If you read the full transcripts of what happened and what Polanski admitted to it was far beyond what any rock stars at that time did It was also in another time than the Elvis and Jerry Lee crap, though in the case of Elvis and Jerry Lee, neither of them drugged the girls and then raped them. The real point that you are missing is the fact that rock stars getting blow jobs from teen groupies are not forcefully raping them Polanski was not just a statutory rapist he was a full on Bill Cosby drug her and raper rapist and he did it to a 13 year old.
Again, I wasn't condoning the behaviour. I was asking about the plea deals because I really only know what I've seen on tv, and I was suggesting a reason why other celebrities would support Polanski not saying that I support Polanski.
Or any of the others that I mentioned for that matter. Jesus as Celebrity [Notes]. Appreciating Art Appreciation. Martin Veronica Jauriqui webmaster. Roman Polanski raped a child. Let's just start right there, because that's the detail that tends to get neglected when we start discussing whether it was fair for the bail-jumping director to be arrested at age 76, after 32 years in "exile" which in this case means owning multiple homes in Europe, continuing to work as a director, marrying and fathering two children, even winning an Oscar, but never — poor baby — being able to return to the U.
Let's keep in mind that Roman Polanski gave a year-old girl a Quaalude and champagne, then raped her, before we start discussing whether the victim looked older than her 13 years, or that she now says she'd rather not see him prosecuted because she can't stand the media attention.
Before we discuss how awesome his movies are or what the now-deceased judge did wrong at his trial, let's take a moment to recall that according to the victim's grand jury testimony, Roman Polanski instructed her to get into a jacuzzi naked, refused to take her home when she begged to go, began kissing her even though she said no and asked him to stop; performed cunnilingus on her as she said no and asked him to stop; put his penis in her vagina as she said no and asked him to stop; asked if he could penetrate her anally, to which she replied, "No," then went ahead and did it anyway, until he had an orgasm.
Can we do that? Can we take a moment to think about all that, and about the fact that Polanski pled guilty to unlawful sex with a minor , before we start talking about what a victim he is?
Because that would be great, and not nearly enough people seem to be doing it. Top photo: Polanski in , via Wikimedia Commons. Erika W. The thing I feel like I gained from it is empathy towards people who have made mistakes. We lived in a different world, and that doesn't excuse anything. But you can have your eyes opened and completely change the way you want to live. My eyes were not open. Thanks to MeToo and the Time's Up campaign, we are now living in a dramatically different climate when it comes to discussing sexual harassment and assault.
But as more artists come forward to speak out against Woody Allen , the same can't be said of Polanski, who remains venerated in Hollywood. Despite the ongoing campaign to highlight abuse and misconduct in the film business and other industries, Polanski remains venerated in Hollywood as one of the leading auteurs of his generation. Alongside Asia Argento and Emma Thompson, Natalie Portman remains one of the few celebrities to apologize for signing the petition.
We reached out to some of the most high-profile signatories to see if they had changed their mind about supporting Polanski in light of the MeToo and Time's Up campaigns.
Argento spoke publicly about her support for Polanski in a Twitter post in , writing: "I already regretted signing the petition years ago, already felt it was a mistake. No excuses. It was stupid… To take a childhood from a person is the worst thing there is.
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